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Post  Banjo on 2017-10-03, 16:38


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Post  Banjo on 2017-10-26, 13:49

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-5017033/Margot-Robbie-films-bank-heist-scene-Dreamland.html

They've been filming these scenes downtown in the afternoon. Doesn't seem to disrupt traffic too much.

The car body style that they are in is generically called a "boat tail speedster" and was used in the 30's on several models. What make this one is, isn't familiar to me.  The Auburn boat tail speedster is the most common make that is restored and seen. I'll see if I can find out what this one is. The blue logo on the radiator isn't familiar, not a Ford of course. The cycle fenders are very distinctive.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auburn_Automobile

The Auburn radiator is different than the movie car.

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Post  Banjo on 2017-10-26, 14:44

The more I look at the car, the more challenging it becomes to identify. Here's what can be determined so far. The tire size and aspect ratio is typical of a 1920's vintage rather than 1930s. The 3 lens tail lights were commonly used on 1920-early 1930 cars, more upscale models, not lower priced. The front axle is a dropped center, solid beam design, common on many models of the era. Can't quite make out the spring type, in one angle it looks almost like torsion bars. That would have been unknown in that era, but they certainly aren't semi-ellipticals, the most common type of the era for front suspensions.  In one pic she is getting out of the drivers side and there is a platform for her to put her foot on. This is certainly an add-on just for that scene to make it easier for her to get out. In other angles it isn't there, also such an object was never used as a stock item on any car without running boards.  The radiator shell   shape was commonly used but the  upsweep design just below the radiator cap is very distinctive. The cycle fenders are also very unusual in that that they don't sweep back and down as was the most common styling feature of the era. The wind wings are another distinctive feature. If only that blue oval logo were clearer in the pic.scratch  I'm almost beginning to believe that it was custom designed and built just for the movie, that is very unlikely though unless hard evidence can be found.

More.....the headlight lenses are vintage era but the shells look more modern, late 30's or even 40's for some British/Euro designs. The hub cap shapes are similar to 20's-30's vintage Packards, but not identical.

My next plan is to go onto the classic car enthusiasts sites and ask if anyone knows what this is. The only problem will be in finding someone who has heard of the movie and Margo Robbe.

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Post  Banjo on 2017-10-26, 15:05

Aha !  These pics disproves my belief that cycle fender cars didn't have a platform for dismounting in place of running boards.

http://oldcarandtruckpictures.com/OldClassicConvertibles/

The many common design elements with the Dreamland car can be seen in these pics , but nothing exactly the same...the Paige looks interesting for further research...nope... tongue

Here's the task facing any researcher of American cars:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_defunct_automobile_manufacturers_of_the_United_States

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Post  Banjo on 2017-10-26, 15:46

I sent the link to these guys. If anyone can identify it, they can. two thumbs up

http://forums.aaca.org/gallery/category/8-members-gallery-main/

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Post  Banjo on 2017-10-31, 15:24

They came back with an ID .  1929 Marmon. But they couldn't decide on the exact model. One guy thought it was a "Roosevelt", but another guy pointed out that the Roosevelt was never sold as an open roadster so it might be a "Model 70" whose specs, but no picture, show up in a 1931-'32 Marmon catalog.  Anyway, the mystery is solved and the Marmon's greatest claim to fame was the "Wasp" model winning the Indy 500 in 1911. It was never a mass market car like a Ford or Chevy and of course didn't survive the Depression like so many other makes.

But I still haven't been able to find a picture of the model used in Dreamland. It must be very rare, possibly a "one-off" although the AACA guys didn't seem to think so.

http://www.conceptcarz.com/vehicle/z15615/Marmon-Sixteen.aspx

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