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BB Day 98 9-23-15
Banjo 2015-09-23, 15:51
This is it sport fans ! Season finale tonight and the outcome still uncertain to a greater than typical degree. Dr. Will Kirby (winner of S2 and considered to be the greatest "genius level" winner ever), moderates the jury meetings where they hash out their decisions. He predicts, reluctantly, that Steve will win and we see here that even John believes that Steve will win. At any rate tonight is another of those once in a lifetime TV events. Okay, so it's 'once in a lifetime' every year at this time and day with the season premiere of Survivor, followed by the season finale of BB. 
Wednesday, September 23, 2015
'Big Brother 17' Finale Prediction: Who Will Win?
John Kubicek
Senior Writer, BuddyTV
Big Brother 17 has reached its finale and now it's time to see who will win the game. In the last 10 seasons, only two women have ever won the game, season 11's Jordan Lloyd and season 13's Rachel Reilly. With Liz Nolan and Vanessa Rousso both in the Final 3, will one of them join that list or will 22-year-old superfan Steve Moses take the win?
SPOILER WARNING: This article contains Big Brother 17 spoilers.
Vanessa won part 1 and Steve won part 2 of the final HoH competition.
Even though Vanessa and Steve have been working together as the Students of Sound since week 2, they certainly won't take each other to the end. Vanessa has told Liz repeatedly she's taking her to the Final 2 because Steve has betrayed her while Steve has spent a lot of time talking to himself, rehearsing his speech for evicting Vanessa.
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This will be the first time since season 11 that someone will make it to the Final 2 without winning any part of the final HoH. And it's worth noting that season 6's Maggie Ausburn is the only winner who didn't win any part, so this final HoH is probably the real deciding factor in who wins.
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Since both Vanessa and Steve will take Liz to the Final 2, I won't even bother speculating on what would happen if Vanessa and Steve were sitting next to each other at the end. Instead, let's study the two actual possibilities.
Steve vs. Liz
If Steve wins the final HoH and evicts Vanessa, that will be a huge move that could sway the jury at the last minute. Liz will get Austin and Julia's votes, but what about the rest of the jury? Shelli and Johnny Mac are definitely on Team Steve. I even think Vanessa would vote for Steve to win as she's spent a lot of time talking to everyone before they left about how Liz didn't play her own game and doesn't deserve to win.
That leaves Becky, James, Meg and Jackie. If it's a bitter jury where gender is an issue, they might just give it to Liz because she's a woman. But the Final 2 speeches and jury questioning might sway things in Steve's favor as Liz is almost certainly going to be quite terrible at defending and explaining her game while Steve has been practicing a lot.
Sadly, it would be a toss-up. I could see Meg, James and Jackie voting for Liz just because they like her more and Steve didn't really do much until the very end. But if they're voting for the most strategic player who made the best moves for their own game, Steve will win.
Vanessa vs. Liz
This match-up is much more cut-and-dry since the gender issue doesn't apply. Once again, Liz should get Austin and Julia's votes, but Vanessa could sweep the rest. Shelli admires Vanessa's game while Steve, Johnny Mac and Becky all know she played the best game (which is why they wanted to take her out). Once again, it comes down the Goblins. Will James, Meg and Jackie see past their disdain for Vanessa's dirty game play and vote for the person who played the best game? I feel like they will, especially since Shelli, Becky and John will all be in that final jury deliberation advocating for Vanessa and against Liz.
MY PREDICTION
I'm definitely going to predict that whoever wins the final HoH will win the game, but deciding who that is will be a mystery. Assuming they use the same competition, answering questions about things the jurors said after they left the house, it's a toss-up.
Vanessa is good at reading people and has a winner's attitude, promising Liz that she will definitely win the third part. But on the live feeds I've seen Steve spending a lot more time studying, thinking over all possible scenarios and questions. He's definitely prepared and I give him the edge.
So I predict Steve will win the final HoH, evict Vanessa, and then beat Liz in a jury vote of 7-2, with Austin and Liz as the only hold-outs. Heck, if we're lucky we might even see Judas vote AGAINST his girlfriend and give the win to Steve because he deserves it more, though that seems unlikely.
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Who do you think will win the final HoH and will they definitely beat Liz in the Final 2? Find out Wednesday at 9:30pm on CBS with the Big Brother 17 finale.
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Liz will beat Vanessa
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FUN FACTS
-At 22, Steve would be the fourth-youngest winner ever. The youngest winners are season 14's Ian Terry and season 1's Eddie McGee, who were both 21, and season 5's Drew Daniel, who was about five months younger than Steve at the time of his win. On finale night, Steve is exactly 12 days younger than Jordan Lloyd was when she won season 11.
-Vanessa would be the oldest woman to ever win the game at 32, beating out 28-year-old Jun Song from season 4. She would also be the third-oldest winner ever, behind season 8's Evel Dick Donato and season 7's Mike "Boogie" Malin.
-If Vanessa wins, she will be the first winner ever with three Power of Veto wins. She would also have the most competition wins out of any winner with eight (assuming she wins the last HoH).
-Season 16 winner Derrick Levasseur's birthday is February 3. Season 3 winner Lisa Donahue's birthday is February 4. Vanessa's birthday is February 5.
-If Vanessa and Liz are the Final 2, it will mark the fourth season in a row that both of the finalists never had a single eviction vote cast against them.
Big Brother Finale: Will Kirby Reveals a Very Angry Jury
Gregory E. Miller
September 23, 2015 10:00 am
Liz, Steve and Vanessa are the final three houseguest on BIG BROTHER, Sunday, September 20th (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.
CBS
A long summer of backstabbing, tears and groan-inducing puns finally comes to an end Wednesday night as Big Brother crowns its seventeenth winner. In the finale, Dr. Will Kirby—the fan-favorite winner of season two who is widely considered the game’s greatest player—returns for a third time to host the jury roundtable. He’ll sit down with those bitter bunnies to flesh out which of the finalists—Vanessa, Steve or Liz—deserves their vote to take home the $500,000 prize. We caught up with Kirby to find out what went down and how he expects the vote will turn out.
Big Brother 2 winner and fan favorite Will Kirby
Big Brother 2 winner and fan favorite Will Kirby
What do you think of the final three?
My honest opinion, which I think is very different than the general consensus, is that this is a phenomenal final three. This is the third year that I’ve hosted the jury roundtable, but it’s the first year where any of the three actually can win. I think both Vanessa and Steve are extremely qualified to win. I remain unconvinced that Liz is as strong a competitor as those two. However, she’s got at least two votes in the jury, and this comes down to a statistical place. To be honest, last year, Derrick was the runaway winner, and that was the consensus among the jury. I had a real uphill battle trying to get them to consider anything [else]. This year, that wasn’t the case with the jury. There was a healthy debate about which of the three was going to win.
How bitter is the jury this year?
They’re extremely pissed off. In fact, I had to ask them to stop talking over each other and to give each other basic respect. They were not even listening to each other. They’re very angry, and the emotion is pretty raw for some of them.
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Which jury member surprised you the most at the roundtable?
I think James is extremely logical. It takes awhile to decompress from the show, I can tell you that firsthand. So when you’re in the jury house, you’re thinking of your moves and what you could have done. Jealousy is a very primal human emotion, and there’s a tremendous amount of jealousy on the jury. [But] I was shocked by James being able to sort of take a step back and kind of logically dissect his mistakes and offer up regrets. I feel like he’s really coming to terms with the Kubler-Ross stages of dying.
When Austin came to the jury house last week, he seemed like he was gearing up to be particularly vicious. Was he pretty cutthroat at the roundtable?
Here’s the thing. When you say “cutthroat” or “vicious” that, in my mind, implies you’re logical. I think Vanessa evicted him, and he’s obviously super hurt by that. So he’s hellbent on turning the jury against her. The problem is, the jury doesn’t really like him, so that could easily backfire. If someone you don’t like gives you advice, why would you follow it? He somehow thinks that he’s this phenomenal public speaker and he’s this motivator, and he’s convinced himself that he’s going to convince the jury to vote which way he wants. But the jury was kind of rolling eyes at him when he was explaining what they should do.
Do you think the jury will vote based on game play or go off their emotions?
You know, they’re hyper-aware of how they’re being perceived by the public—so much, in fact, that they almost can’t make decisions on their own. They’re making decisions that they think the public would like. I said to them, “What the public really responds to—because I’ve been doing this a long time, guys—is authenticity.” They like it when you’re genuine. If you say, “Hey, I’m super bitter, and I’m not casting my vote so much for one person, as I am against someone else,” then America will respect that. That can be your legacy. But if you just kind of make up false reasons why you’re going to vote for someone, the public sees that, and then you’re just kind of a joke in the annals of Big Brother history.
CBS chairman and CEO Les Moonves recently said that “usually you have one or two disappointments” in the show’s casting, but this year there were “five or six.” Do you agree?
He’s absolutely, unequivocally, 100 percent wrong. You can’t predict who you’re going to fall in love with. It takes awhile for these things to work out and to mature and to evolve. If you really break it down, what happened is big personalities got eliminated very, very quickly. We watch the show for entertainment, and when some of the better “entertainers” are eliminated quickly, then maybe that middle group doesn’t seem comparatively as interesting. So the dilemma we have is, the jury is not the most dynamic, outgoing group of individuals. But this isn’t Jersey Shore. You can’t have people flipping tables and slapping each other, or you just don’t have a show… I stand by the casting decisions. It’s a very difficult job to find 16 different people who are available, who are interesting, who are STD-free and who have big personalities to appear on the show.
There’s been a lot of chatter online that the show is in need of some kind of revamp or structural changes. What are you thoughts on that?
Everybody’s a Monday morning quarterback. I can’t tell you how many times someone will come up to me who’s unbelievably boring and go, “You know what, I’d be amazing on that show!” And I’m like, “You’re not even amazing here at the grocery store.”
The truth is, most people are, like, unrelentingly boring. The show gets consistent ratings, and as you know all too well, TV is changing. I played 14 years ago on Big Brother, and it’s changed dramatically since then. [But] the truth is, Big Brother’s a staple that provides consistent ratings over time. Could you make the show different? Of course you could. [But] it’s pure speculation as to how that would affect it. Maybe that would be terrible and it would kill the franchise.
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Who’s going to win the season?
If you put a gun to my head and made me guess right now, knowing that I have no influence, I think Steve will probably win. I’m reluctantly saying that, and it’s against my nature, but I’ll just go ahead and float it out there that I think he’ll probably win.
Who do you think will win America’s vote for favorite houseguest, which comes with a $25,000 prize?
You know what, you really have to look at the core demographic of America, and I think we watch it for the young flesh and for the entertainment. I think America will probably think that Johnny Mac was the most entertaining because he was just a real odd character—his bizarre laugh, his sort of Bobcat Goldthwait pent-up, waiting-to-explode-underlying anxiety was just kind of bizarre and fascinating to watch.
You’ve met him in real life now. Is there something wrong with him?
I’m a board-certified dermatologist. I am not a psychologist. I think there’s something wrong with every single person who plays on Big Brother, including myself. But there is definitely something wrong with all the jury members.
Who deserves a chance to come back and play again?
What’s fascinating to me [is] you can see they’re all kind of digesting what happened, and they’re all finagling this mythical all-stars spot that may or may not exist. I’ve seen that the last three years in a row. The jury members literally pull me aside at the end and are like, “Hey, could you put in a good word for me with all-stars?” It’s like, one, I know this is going to come as a shock, but my power at CBS is slightly lower than the janitor who just got fired for meth addiction. No one gives a s—t what I think. And two, you were on the show five minutes ago! Why didn’t you play then?
Wednesday, September 23, 2015
'Big Brother 17' Finale Prediction: Who Will Win?
John Kubicek
Senior Writer, BuddyTV
Big Brother 17 has reached its finale and now it's time to see who will win the game. In the last 10 seasons, only two women have ever won the game, season 11's Jordan Lloyd and season 13's Rachel Reilly. With Liz Nolan and Vanessa Rousso both in the Final 3, will one of them join that list or will 22-year-old superfan Steve Moses take the win?
SPOILER WARNING: This article contains Big Brother 17 spoilers.
Vanessa won part 1 and Steve won part 2 of the final HoH competition.
Even though Vanessa and Steve have been working together as the Students of Sound since week 2, they certainly won't take each other to the end. Vanessa has told Liz repeatedly she's taking her to the Final 2 because Steve has betrayed her while Steve has spent a lot of time talking to himself, rehearsing his speech for evicting Vanessa.
Who Will Win BB17 Fan Favorite?>>
This will be the first time since season 11 that someone will make it to the Final 2 without winning any part of the final HoH. And it's worth noting that season 6's Maggie Ausburn is the only winner who didn't win any part, so this final HoH is probably the real deciding factor in who wins.
The 10 Worst Moments of Big Brother 17>>
Since both Vanessa and Steve will take Liz to the Final 2, I won't even bother speculating on what would happen if Vanessa and Steve were sitting next to each other at the end. Instead, let's study the two actual possibilities.
Steve vs. Liz
If Steve wins the final HoH and evicts Vanessa, that will be a huge move that could sway the jury at the last minute. Liz will get Austin and Julia's votes, but what about the rest of the jury? Shelli and Johnny Mac are definitely on Team Steve. I even think Vanessa would vote for Steve to win as she's spent a lot of time talking to everyone before they left about how Liz didn't play her own game and doesn't deserve to win.
That leaves Becky, James, Meg and Jackie. If it's a bitter jury where gender is an issue, they might just give it to Liz because she's a woman. But the Final 2 speeches and jury questioning might sway things in Steve's favor as Liz is almost certainly going to be quite terrible at defending and explaining her game while Steve has been practicing a lot.
Sadly, it would be a toss-up. I could see Meg, James and Jackie voting for Liz just because they like her more and Steve didn't really do much until the very end. But if they're voting for the most strategic player who made the best moves for their own game, Steve will win.
Vanessa vs. Liz
This match-up is much more cut-and-dry since the gender issue doesn't apply. Once again, Liz should get Austin and Julia's votes, but Vanessa could sweep the rest. Shelli admires Vanessa's game while Steve, Johnny Mac and Becky all know she played the best game (which is why they wanted to take her out). Once again, it comes down the Goblins. Will James, Meg and Jackie see past their disdain for Vanessa's dirty game play and vote for the person who played the best game? I feel like they will, especially since Shelli, Becky and John will all be in that final jury deliberation advocating for Vanessa and against Liz.
MY PREDICTION
I'm definitely going to predict that whoever wins the final HoH will win the game, but deciding who that is will be a mystery. Assuming they use the same competition, answering questions about things the jurors said after they left the house, it's a toss-up.
Vanessa is good at reading people and has a winner's attitude, promising Liz that she will definitely win the third part. But on the live feeds I've seen Steve spending a lot more time studying, thinking over all possible scenarios and questions. He's definitely prepared and I give him the edge.
So I predict Steve will win the final HoH, evict Vanessa, and then beat Liz in a jury vote of 7-2, with Austin and Liz as the only hold-outs. Heck, if we're lucky we might even see Judas vote AGAINST his girlfriend and give the win to Steve because he deserves it more, though that seems unlikely.
Best Quotes from the 17 HGs>>
Who do you think will win the final HoH and will they definitely beat Liz in the Final 2? Find out Wednesday at 9:30pm on CBS with the Big Brother 17 finale.
Who do you think will win 'BB17?
Vanessa will beat Liz
Liz will beat Vanessa
Steve will beat Liz
Liz will beat Vanessa
Submit »
FUN FACTS
-At 22, Steve would be the fourth-youngest winner ever. The youngest winners are season 14's Ian Terry and season 1's Eddie McGee, who were both 21, and season 5's Drew Daniel, who was about five months younger than Steve at the time of his win. On finale night, Steve is exactly 12 days younger than Jordan Lloyd was when she won season 11.
-Vanessa would be the oldest woman to ever win the game at 32, beating out 28-year-old Jun Song from season 4. She would also be the third-oldest winner ever, behind season 8's Evel Dick Donato and season 7's Mike "Boogie" Malin.
-If Vanessa wins, she will be the first winner ever with three Power of Veto wins. She would also have the most competition wins out of any winner with eight (assuming she wins the last HoH).
-Season 16 winner Derrick Levasseur's birthday is February 3. Season 3 winner Lisa Donahue's birthday is February 4. Vanessa's birthday is February 5.
-If Vanessa and Liz are the Final 2, it will mark the fourth season in a row that both of the finalists never had a single eviction vote cast against them.
Big Brother Finale: Will Kirby Reveals a Very Angry Jury
Gregory E. Miller
September 23, 2015 10:00 am
Liz, Steve and Vanessa are the final three houseguest on BIG BROTHER, Sunday, September 20th (8:00-9:00 PM, ET/PT) on the CBS Television Network.
CBS
A long summer of backstabbing, tears and groan-inducing puns finally comes to an end Wednesday night as Big Brother crowns its seventeenth winner. In the finale, Dr. Will Kirby—the fan-favorite winner of season two who is widely considered the game’s greatest player—returns for a third time to host the jury roundtable. He’ll sit down with those bitter bunnies to flesh out which of the finalists—Vanessa, Steve or Liz—deserves their vote to take home the $500,000 prize. We caught up with Kirby to find out what went down and how he expects the vote will turn out.
Big Brother 2 winner and fan favorite Will Kirby
Big Brother 2 winner and fan favorite Will Kirby
What do you think of the final three?
My honest opinion, which I think is very different than the general consensus, is that this is a phenomenal final three. This is the third year that I’ve hosted the jury roundtable, but it’s the first year where any of the three actually can win. I think both Vanessa and Steve are extremely qualified to win. I remain unconvinced that Liz is as strong a competitor as those two. However, she’s got at least two votes in the jury, and this comes down to a statistical place. To be honest, last year, Derrick was the runaway winner, and that was the consensus among the jury. I had a real uphill battle trying to get them to consider anything [else]. This year, that wasn’t the case with the jury. There was a healthy debate about which of the three was going to win.
How bitter is the jury this year?
They’re extremely pissed off. In fact, I had to ask them to stop talking over each other and to give each other basic respect. They were not even listening to each other. They’re very angry, and the emotion is pretty raw for some of them.
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Which jury member surprised you the most at the roundtable?
I think James is extremely logical. It takes awhile to decompress from the show, I can tell you that firsthand. So when you’re in the jury house, you’re thinking of your moves and what you could have done. Jealousy is a very primal human emotion, and there’s a tremendous amount of jealousy on the jury. [But] I was shocked by James being able to sort of take a step back and kind of logically dissect his mistakes and offer up regrets. I feel like he’s really coming to terms with the Kubler-Ross stages of dying.
When Austin came to the jury house last week, he seemed like he was gearing up to be particularly vicious. Was he pretty cutthroat at the roundtable?
Here’s the thing. When you say “cutthroat” or “vicious” that, in my mind, implies you’re logical. I think Vanessa evicted him, and he’s obviously super hurt by that. So he’s hellbent on turning the jury against her. The problem is, the jury doesn’t really like him, so that could easily backfire. If someone you don’t like gives you advice, why would you follow it? He somehow thinks that he’s this phenomenal public speaker and he’s this motivator, and he’s convinced himself that he’s going to convince the jury to vote which way he wants. But the jury was kind of rolling eyes at him when he was explaining what they should do.
Do you think the jury will vote based on game play or go off their emotions?
You know, they’re hyper-aware of how they’re being perceived by the public—so much, in fact, that they almost can’t make decisions on their own. They’re making decisions that they think the public would like. I said to them, “What the public really responds to—because I’ve been doing this a long time, guys—is authenticity.” They like it when you’re genuine. If you say, “Hey, I’m super bitter, and I’m not casting my vote so much for one person, as I am against someone else,” then America will respect that. That can be your legacy. But if you just kind of make up false reasons why you’re going to vote for someone, the public sees that, and then you’re just kind of a joke in the annals of Big Brother history.
CBS chairman and CEO Les Moonves recently said that “usually you have one or two disappointments” in the show’s casting, but this year there were “five or six.” Do you agree?
He’s absolutely, unequivocally, 100 percent wrong. You can’t predict who you’re going to fall in love with. It takes awhile for these things to work out and to mature and to evolve. If you really break it down, what happened is big personalities got eliminated very, very quickly. We watch the show for entertainment, and when some of the better “entertainers” are eliminated quickly, then maybe that middle group doesn’t seem comparatively as interesting. So the dilemma we have is, the jury is not the most dynamic, outgoing group of individuals. But this isn’t Jersey Shore. You can’t have people flipping tables and slapping each other, or you just don’t have a show… I stand by the casting decisions. It’s a very difficult job to find 16 different people who are available, who are interesting, who are STD-free and who have big personalities to appear on the show.
There’s been a lot of chatter online that the show is in need of some kind of revamp or structural changes. What are you thoughts on that?
Everybody’s a Monday morning quarterback. I can’t tell you how many times someone will come up to me who’s unbelievably boring and go, “You know what, I’d be amazing on that show!” And I’m like, “You’re not even amazing here at the grocery store.”
The truth is, most people are, like, unrelentingly boring. The show gets consistent ratings, and as you know all too well, TV is changing. I played 14 years ago on Big Brother, and it’s changed dramatically since then. [But] the truth is, Big Brother’s a staple that provides consistent ratings over time. Could you make the show different? Of course you could. [But] it’s pure speculation as to how that would affect it. Maybe that would be terrible and it would kill the franchise.PHOTOS: Guess Who's Guest-Starring on Your Favorite Fall Shows?
Who’s going to win the season?
If you put a gun to my head and made me guess right now, knowing that I have no influence, I think Steve will probably win. I’m reluctantly saying that, and it’s against my nature, but I’ll just go ahead and float it out there that I think he’ll probably win.
Who do you think will win America’s vote for favorite houseguest, which comes with a $25,000 prize?
You know what, you really have to look at the core demographic of America, and I think we watch it for the young flesh and for the entertainment. I think America will probably think that Johnny Mac was the most entertaining because he was just a real odd character—his bizarre laugh, his sort of Bobcat Goldthwait pent-up, waiting-to-explode-underlying anxiety was just kind of bizarre and fascinating to watch.
You’ve met him in real life now. Is there something wrong with him?
I’m a board-certified dermatologist. I am not a psychologist. I think there’s something wrong with every single person who plays on Big Brother, including myself. But there is definitely something wrong with all the jury members.
Who deserves a chance to come back and play again?
What’s fascinating to me [is] you can see they’re all kind of digesting what happened, and they’re all finagling this mythical all-stars spot that may or may not exist. I’ve seen that the last three years in a row. The jury members literally pull me aside at the end and are like, “Hey, could you put in a good word for me with all-stars?” It’s like, one, I know this is going to come as a shock, but my power at CBS is slightly lower than the janitor who just got fired for meth addiction. No one gives a s—t what I think. And two, you were on the show five minutes ago! Why didn’t you play then?
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