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The Thing
The Thing
John Campbell was the editor of Astounding Science Fiction (now Analog) magazine from about 1930 to 1971 and is credited for giving s-f authors of that era their start and guidance. Most of the classic stories by Heinlein, Azimov, Williamson, Sturgeon, etc. etc. first appeared in Astounding either as short stories, novelettes, or serials. After he died in '71 and the name was changed shortly afterward Analog has continued to be the premier and most prestigious S-F magazine. I lost my collection of '40s to 60's Astounding in a flood but have multiple piles of Analogs around the house...
BY ROGER EBERT / October 12, 2011
Cast & Credits
Kate Mary Elizabeth Winstead
Braxton Joel Edgerton
Sander Ulrich Thomsen
Adam Eric Christian Olsen
Universal presents a film directed by Matthijs van Heijningen Jr. Written by Eric Heisserer, based on a story by John Campbell. Running time: 103 minutes. Rated R (for strong creatÂure violence; gore, disturbing images, and language).
Imagine a creature that can exactly imitate the body and behavior of another life form — so well it could fool you into thinking it was your best friend. This Thing journeys the cosmos and mimics the aliens it encounters. Then it reveals its true appearance, which is a hideous and leaky smorgasbord of palpitating organs, claws, teeth, crab legs, lobster tails, beaks, snaky appendages and gooey dripping eyeballs. It doesn't say much for life in the universe that with whole galaxies to choose from, that's the best body it could come up with.
The source is one of the most durable science-fiction stories of all time. Written as "Who Goes There?" by John W. Campbell Jr., it inspired a 1951 film by Howard Hawks, and a 1982 remake by John Carpenter. Its idea for an alien also transmuted into two versions of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" and all of the "Alien" movies. In the 1950s, the earlier movies were read as allegories of the communist menace: Ordinary Americans were infested with Marxism, and although they continued to resemble your husband, cousin or boss, secretly they were a manifestation of an alien ideology.
The movie's setup: Scientists have discovered a spacecraft buried in the ice of the South Pole. A body is dug out in a block of ice, and … thaws. In the first film, scientists used instruments to determine the edges of the buried craft, and then chillingly realized they were standing in a saucer-shaped circle. It was the best shot in the film.
This new film once again finds useful the notion that the story takes place entirely within a closed system — a research station in Antarctica, or a spaceship traveling the void. Since the Thing prefers to inhabit its hosts secretly and remain in disguise, the plot comes down to a deadly puzzle: Of the people in the research station or on the spaceship, which are real and which are Things? Paranoia drives the plot.
There is a logical flaw here: Why would the Thing reveal itself before it had infected everyone? Why tip off the humans that there's a problem? Why, for that matter, wouldn't the Thing travel the universe and simply become every race, so that all life was Things?
The answer, obviously, is because such a story would be impossible. All these people would be in the research station, they'd look and behave like themselves for the whole movie, nothing exciting would happen until the last scene — and then, wow, what happened? We're all Things!
You don't ask questions like that. You accept the genre. It consists of people being horribly sucked up and digested and having their teeth fillings spit out. The interest would seem to be in the special effects: What do the Things really look like? I saw the 1951 film with my mother in a movie theater in West Point, N.Y., where we were attending my cousin Tommy's graduation from the military academy. It was the most terrifying experience I have ever had in a movie theater. (I was too scared to even go see it, but pressed my grade school friends who did, to give me all the gory details. They didn't seem traumatized by the experience. The publicity was massive, I remember that much, and it was one of Arness' first roles. IMDB says that was his 13th role, he started in '47, counting his appearances in the Lone Ranger TV series as one role.
What did the creature look like? I'm not quite sure. I know it was played by James Arness, and was humanoid (a guy in a Thing suit, you could say). The point wasn't its appearance, it was the suspense. The long, cold corridors of the Antarctic structure, the dark and cluttered store rooms, could be concealing a Thing that would leap out at you. Characters persisted in wandering off recklessly by themselves. I kept ducking down behind my seat.
The contribution by John Carpenter was to take advantage of three decades of special effects to make his creatures Awful Gooey Things from Space. That was done well in his film, and it is done with even more technical expertise here — but to what point? The more you see of a monster, the less you get. It is the unseen, the imagined, that scares you. This version of "The Thing," directed by Matthijs van Heijningen Jr., provides such graphic and detailed views of the creature that we are essentially reduced to looking at special effects, and being aware that we are. Think how little you ever really saw in the first "Alien" movie, and how frightening it was.
I expect this movie will do well at the box office. It has a lot of gory Gotcha! moments, and many scenes in which an endless supply of Things are incineratÂed by flame throwers. It seems like such an ignominious end for such a versatile species.
John Campbell was the editor of Astounding Science Fiction (now Analog) magazine from about 1930 to 1971 and is credited for giving s-f authors of that era their start and guidance. Most of the classic stories by Heinlein, Azimov, Williamson, Sturgeon, etc. etc. first appeared in Astounding either as short stories, novelettes, or serials. After he died in '71 and the name was changed shortly afterward Analog has continued to be the premier and most prestigious S-F magazine. I lost my collection of '40s to 60's Astounding in a flood but have multiple piles of Analogs around the house...
BY ROGER EBERT / October 12, 2011
Cast & Credits
Kate Mary Elizabeth Winstead
Braxton Joel Edgerton
Sander Ulrich Thomsen
Adam Eric Christian Olsen
Universal presents a film directed by Matthijs van Heijningen Jr. Written by Eric Heisserer, based on a story by John Campbell. Running time: 103 minutes. Rated R (for strong creatÂure violence; gore, disturbing images, and language).
Imagine a creature that can exactly imitate the body and behavior of another life form — so well it could fool you into thinking it was your best friend. This Thing journeys the cosmos and mimics the aliens it encounters. Then it reveals its true appearance, which is a hideous and leaky smorgasbord of palpitating organs, claws, teeth, crab legs, lobster tails, beaks, snaky appendages and gooey dripping eyeballs. It doesn't say much for life in the universe that with whole galaxies to choose from, that's the best body it could come up with.
The source is one of the most durable science-fiction stories of all time. Written as "Who Goes There?" by John W. Campbell Jr., it inspired a 1951 film by Howard Hawks, and a 1982 remake by John Carpenter. Its idea for an alien also transmuted into two versions of "Invasion of the Body Snatchers" and all of the "Alien" movies. In the 1950s, the earlier movies were read as allegories of the communist menace: Ordinary Americans were infested with Marxism, and although they continued to resemble your husband, cousin or boss, secretly they were a manifestation of an alien ideology.
The movie's setup: Scientists have discovered a spacecraft buried in the ice of the South Pole. A body is dug out in a block of ice, and … thaws. In the first film, scientists used instruments to determine the edges of the buried craft, and then chillingly realized they were standing in a saucer-shaped circle. It was the best shot in the film.
This new film once again finds useful the notion that the story takes place entirely within a closed system — a research station in Antarctica, or a spaceship traveling the void. Since the Thing prefers to inhabit its hosts secretly and remain in disguise, the plot comes down to a deadly puzzle: Of the people in the research station or on the spaceship, which are real and which are Things? Paranoia drives the plot.
There is a logical flaw here: Why would the Thing reveal itself before it had infected everyone? Why tip off the humans that there's a problem? Why, for that matter, wouldn't the Thing travel the universe and simply become every race, so that all life was Things?
The answer, obviously, is because such a story would be impossible. All these people would be in the research station, they'd look and behave like themselves for the whole movie, nothing exciting would happen until the last scene — and then, wow, what happened? We're all Things!
You don't ask questions like that. You accept the genre. It consists of people being horribly sucked up and digested and having their teeth fillings spit out. The interest would seem to be in the special effects: What do the Things really look like? I saw the 1951 film with my mother in a movie theater in West Point, N.Y., where we were attending my cousin Tommy's graduation from the military academy. It was the most terrifying experience I have ever had in a movie theater. (I was too scared to even go see it, but pressed my grade school friends who did, to give me all the gory details. They didn't seem traumatized by the experience. The publicity was massive, I remember that much, and it was one of Arness' first roles. IMDB says that was his 13th role, he started in '47, counting his appearances in the Lone Ranger TV series as one role.
What did the creature look like? I'm not quite sure. I know it was played by James Arness, and was humanoid (a guy in a Thing suit, you could say). The point wasn't its appearance, it was the suspense. The long, cold corridors of the Antarctic structure, the dark and cluttered store rooms, could be concealing a Thing that would leap out at you. Characters persisted in wandering off recklessly by themselves. I kept ducking down behind my seat.
The contribution by John Carpenter was to take advantage of three decades of special effects to make his creatures Awful Gooey Things from Space. That was done well in his film, and it is done with even more technical expertise here — but to what point? The more you see of a monster, the less you get. It is the unseen, the imagined, that scares you. This version of "The Thing," directed by Matthijs van Heijningen Jr., provides such graphic and detailed views of the creature that we are essentially reduced to looking at special effects, and being aware that we are. Think how little you ever really saw in the first "Alien" movie, and how frightening it was.
I expect this movie will do well at the box office. It has a lot of gory Gotcha! moments, and many scenes in which an endless supply of Things are incineratÂed by flame throwers. It seems like such an ignominious end for such a versatile species.
Banjo- Moderator
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Ah...Banjo we share a love for Analog. I had a stash from the 60's lost in a flood as well Is there a connection here between floods and Analog? I have several more recent and when I can catch my breath or run away where I can't be found I hole up with one..and read it cover to cover.
That being said, I' saw the first remake of The Thing and didn't like it so I don't think I'll bother with this one....The first one is a cult classic. although not my favorite...I've seen it multiple times. Some movies shouldn't be remade...
That being said, I' saw the first remake of The Thing and didn't like it so I don't think I'll bother with this one....The first one is a cult classic. although not my favorite...I've seen it multiple times. Some movies shouldn't be remade...
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Yep, this one sounds like a gorier remake of the second one. Some day I'll get up enough courage to watch the original. It has been on cable I think, but rarely.
AR, if you want any back issues of Analog let me know. I can use the space. :lol: And I still subscribe, since about 1958 if I remember.....and I don't think there were any breaks......
AR, if you want any back issues of Analog let me know. I can use the space. :lol: And I still subscribe, since about 1958 if I remember.....and I don't think there were any breaks......
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Banjo ... I still enjoy watching the 1951 Howard Hawks' version of The Thing (when it's on).
Thought James Arness did a great job, given it was a non-speaking role.
I consider it much, much suspenseful than the 1982 John Carpenter's version with Kurt Russell.
I'm sure that this 2011 Matthijs van Heijningen version will be even less enjoyable than the 1982 one.
Thought James Arness did a great job, given it was a non-speaking role.
I consider it much, much suspenseful than the 1982 John Carpenter's version with Kurt Russell.
I'm sure that this 2011 Matthijs van Heijningen version will be even less enjoyable than the 1982 one.
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By 1982 I was brave enough to watch that version... :lol: and knew that it was a step below the original.....rather formulaic....
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