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Post  Banjo 2013-07-13, 11:52

After Helen nominated Aaryn and Kaitlin, Elissa won MVP, again, 3rd week in a row, and put up Spencer as the 3rd nominee. But he was told that he is just the pawn and Aaryn is the real target. While almost everyone would be happy to see her go I think that Jeremy should have been nominated since he is far more dangerous in the comps. But Helen/Elissa/Candice think they can get him to work with them down the line. This seems naive to me. Later today will be the selection for who plays in the POV comp. and then the comp. itself. Ideally Jeremy will not be one of the ones chosen (random draw).

Meanwhile Helen let slip on the live feeds last night that production doesn't want Howard to go home in the near future, which is one reason she didn't nominate him. So we have clear evidence of production manipulation. The common feeling is that prod. doesn't want Howard, a black man, going home before Aaryn, the main source of the racist comments

So now we wait to see the result of the POV comp. later today. If Jeremy isn't picked to play or does play but doesn't win POV, then the POV winner could backdoor him by pulling Spencer off the block and putting up Jeremy in his place. The wise voting would then be to evict him but with Aaryn also on the block it is unclear how it would go,   a 'revenge vote' against her or a 'dangerous vote' against him.



'Big Brother 15' Spoilers: Helen's Week 3 Nominations
Friday, July 12, 2013

John Kubicek
Senior Writer, BuddyTV

Big Brother 15 is rapidly becoming The Helen Show. The woman is a force of nature. She might be the oldest person in the house, but she's wickedly smart, quite athletic, a huge fan of the show and, as far as I'm concerned, her conviction and determination were the primary reason Nick was evicted. So who did she nominate for eviction?

SPOILER WARNING: This article contains Big Brother 15 spoilers.

Helen nominated Aaryn and Kaitlin.

Nominating Aaryn is an obvious choice because she's just plain awful, and arguably the strongest female competitor since she stayed on the popsicle in the first HoH challenge for three hours, outlasting all the other girls, and she won the second endurance HoH. Kaitlin seems nominated as a pawn.

In addition, the plan is to have the MVP nominate Howard because Helen knows he's against them.

Helen knows that Howard and Spencer concocted a plan to split their votes this week and try to blame Jessie. She also knows about the Moving Company (Amanda told her first, and 15 minutes later, Jeremy told her too). When Helen met with Howard, he confessed to being the fourth vote to evict Elissa this week, but he denied working with Nick in an all-guys alliance. She tried to give him a chance to be honest, but he refused to take it.

So now Helen doesn't trust Howard or Spencer at all, but it's a little complicated because Candice really likes Howard and wants to believe him.

Assuming Howard goes up as the MVP nominee and the Power of Veto gets used, they can backdoor Jeremy.(but of course Howard won't go up because of the prod. manipulation but the Jeremy backdoor can still happen) This is in spite of a deal Helen made with Jeremy to keep him safe this week if he agrees to never go after her or Elissa in the future. I'm pretty sure that deal was just in case Jeremy gets picked to play in the Power of Veto and wins. In other words, it's a deal where Helen isn't actually going to help Jeremy at all.

Andy has also grown close to Kaitlin, and Jeremy seems open to trying to form a bond with him. He's pushing for an alliance with Andy, Helen, Jeremy and Kaitlin, which is crazy and probably won't happen, but I think it could be cool. Jeremy tried to bond with Andy by telling him all about the Moving Company. The best part is that Andy acted surprised despite the fact that McCrae told him all about it last night. In other words, Andy has no real intention of aligning with Jeremy.

In addition, Amanda is stirring up some major crap by telling Aaryn about the Moving Company and she lied that Jeremy voted against David. Amanda is clearly trying to make sure Aaryn and Jeremy are working against each other. I don't understand any of this, because since the Team Elissa Alliance has the numbers, trying to turn the other four against each other feels like they're just playing with their food for sport. Why are they all pretending to make fake alliances with Aaryn, Jeremy and Kaitlin? It's making me really hate Amanda, because she's starting unnecessary crap just for the sake of causing drama. And making deals of any kind with Aaryn while turning on Jeremy just boggles my mind.

The dynamic is basically that Jeremy and Kaitlin have split from Aaryn and GinaMarie, with Howard and Spencer as another outcast pair. The other eight, however, seem solid, though they're already forming cliques (Amanda, McCrae, Judd and Jessie will grow a lot closer since they are the Have-Nots this week).

Personally, I hope Jeremy survives this week. I know people don't like him because he's a bully, but I really want to believe he's just a dumb, immature kid who has a lot of growing up to do. He's been surprisingly calm following Nick's eviction, unlike Aaryn who went even crazier than usual Thursday night. And Jeremy confessed to Helen about the Moving Company while Howard and Spencer have not.

I know the thought process for Helen, Elissa and Candice is that big, strong guys need to go ASAP because they always win, and girls only win if they go to the end with another girl. But right now, there are more awful and untrustworthy people for Helen to go after (Aaryn, Spencer, Howard). Also, if Helen is thinking long-term, Jeremy could be helpful if she ever needs to break up McCrae and Amanda.

Although that could be why Helen is also trying to sway Kaitlin and GinaMarie to join her side. Helen seems to be amassing a female army, which should make the guys worried. Obviously Jeremy, Spencer and Howard's days are numbered, but McCrae and Judd should watch their backs too, because I could see the ladies turning on them once they reach the final 7 or 8.

What do you think of Helen's nominations? Should Aaryn be evicted this week or does Jeremy need to get backdoored?


'Big Brother 15' Spoilers: Who Is the Week 3 MVP?
Saturday, July 13, 2013

John Kubicek
Senior Writer, BuddyTV

Perhaps I dismissed Big Brother 15 prematurely. I originally thought the eviction of Nick and the coalition that developed behind using Elissa as the MVP would dominate the game and make for a boring season. Well, buckle up, kids, because things are about to get bumpy.

SPOILER WARNING: This article contains Big Brother 15 spoilers.

Helen nominated Aaryn and Kaitlin.

Elissa is the MVP for a third week in a row. Yawn. I really thought Helen had a shot since she basically masterminded Nick's eviction, did all of Elissa's campaigning for her and then won HoH. If Elissa still won, then it's pretty obvious nothing will prevent this from happening every single week as many, including me and most of the HGs, have predicted.

But it's not all boring, because the MVP nomination caused a whole lot of drama.

The consensus, especially among McCrae, Amanda and Helen, is that the MVP nominee should be Howard. He voted to evict Elissa this week, lied about it to Helen's face and then finally came clean about the Moving Company with Spencer (but this was long after McCrae and Jeremy had already spilled the beans and everyone already knew it). He has also told lies while swearing on the Bible.

However, Elissa started to crack and got a little fed up with having to be the person who gets all of the blood on her hands. She even talked to Helen and asked if they are really friends or if she's just using her for the MVP power. Helen assured her that their friendship is real and would exist even without the MVP twist. I believe her. I don't believe that's true with almost everyone else on their team.

Both of Elissa's nominees have gone home in the first two weeks, and now she was asked to put up another big strong guy. She wondered why Helen didn't nominate Howard instead, and also feared that he may come after her (on the live feeds, Howard has referenced that he has anger issues). She was equally worried about upsetting Candice.

Helen, McCrae, Amanda and Elissa were in the HoH room Friday night discussing what to do with the MVP nomination. Amanda was pushing hard for Howard, but Elissa was uneasy about it. Then Amanda got irritated and said to her, "We saved you, don't f*** this up."

Wow. I guess Jeremy isn't the only bully in the house. That moral high ground is starting to look a little shaky if it's only the third week and Amanda is already strong-arming Elissa to do what she wants her to do. A little later, with no irony, Amanda accused Spencer and Howard of bullying her over the past few days.

Elissa wanted to put Spencer up instead, because he's obviously working with Howard and he's less intimidating. None of this truly matters since the plan is to backdoor Jeremy, but if the Power of Veto is not used for some reason or if Jeremy gets picked to play and wins, then the secondary target is Howard.

The Fake MVP

To calm things down, McCrae and Helen both offered to tell everyone that they won MVP instead in order to protect Elissa.

When Candice came in, the others were very worried about mentioning Howard's name. To calm things down, McCrae said that he won the MVP, and Candice seemed to buy it, though she was still against Howard being nominated because he stood up for her during her big fight with Aaryn and GinaMarie Thursday night.

Candice told Howard that McCrae is the MVP, and he then went up to the HoH room to defend himself and plead his case to McCrae and Amanda. Things got a little touchy between Amanda and Howard as they rehashed things over the past week, including the fact that Howard and Spencer were trying to get Amanda evicted.

It got a little crazy when Amanda claimed that McCrae was ONLY in the Moving Company because he won the first HoH. Howard then asked if Amanda still would've hooked up with McCrae if he wasn't the first HoH. ZING! Also, that's a great question. I mean, it is a bit odd that a busty, successful, powerful real estate agent is so into a scrawny, long-haired 23-year-old pizza delivery boy with sketchy facial hair.

Amanda also brought up race, saying that she defended Howard and Candice against Aaryn. Well, she brought up the subject with Aaryn, but she basically said that she didn't think Aaryn was a racist and that she should apologize. Is that defending them?

The conversation ended by having McCrae, Amanda and Helen explaining that they're putting Howard up because he's the only one strong enough to defeat Jeremy in the Power of Veto competition if Jeremy is chosen to play in it. Helen then emphasized the importance of backdooring Jeremy because "We hate him."

"I Don't Even Know Who I Put Up"

The problem with all of this is that Howard is NOT the MVP nominee.

The best part of this MVP saga came after Elissa returned to the HoH room from the diary room. Amanda asked if she just made her MVP nomination. Elissa started to play coy, saying she didn't think she actually won MVP this week and she wasn't told she was. It was the world's worst lie.

Amanda really pushed hard and Elissa was still vague, but cracked quickly as Amanda kept wanting to know whether she put up Howard. Elissa then said, "I don't even know who I put up." Seriously, those words came out of her mouth. I now desperately want to play poker with this woman.

Having admitted she is the MVP and just nominated someone, Amanda pressed harder and finally got Elissa to admit that she put up Spencer. Amanda became enraged over how Elissa just f***ed over her and McCrae because they just told Howard that McCrae won MVP and he was nominating Howard.

Elissa then tried to deny being MVP. For reals, this is the actual order of events as they unfolded. She denied even being MVP, admitted she was, admitted she nominated Spencer, then denied being MVP again. Amanda immediately called her out.

I truly do not understand Elissa. Is she that bad at lying? Or did the diary room tell her she's not allowed to say that she's the MVP and she just keeps forgetting?

Whatever the case, Amanda was furious at Elissa for not doing exactly what they wanted, but Elissa started to stand up for herself, saying that they need to include her in the decision-making process, because this week it felt like McCrae and Amanda decided Howard would be the MVP nominee and just assumed that Elissa would do exactly what they wanted.

This is going to sound weird coming from me, but "YAY, ELISSA!" Stand up for yourself, girl! Stop being a tool. And next week, flip the house and use the MVP to nominate Amanda! That would be awesome.

In the aftermath, Judd and Helen comforted Elissa and promised her that they love her for her, while Amanda did damage control and came up with a plan where McCrae, as "MVP," would make a deal with Howard not to put him up. Amanda really is the manipulative snake the Moving Company claimed she was. I know there are about four huge targets for Helen's alliance right now, but part of me hopes this fight festers and they decide to do something about this Amanda problem. Later, McCrae told Spencer that he won MVP and that Spencer is the third nominee, but he shouldn't worry because he's not the target.

Here's an idea for Helen, Elissa, Judd, Jessie and Andy: Dump McCrae and Amanda and pick up Jeremy and Kaitlin! It won't happen, but I can dream. And they can definitely get Candice and Howard on board with sending Aaryn home this week instead of Jeremy due to the race issue. Speaking of which...

The Race Issue

There may also be another component to the difficulty of this decision: race. Obviously racism has been a touchy subject on Big Brother 15, and if Elissa put up Howard, a black man, and if his girl Candice came to his defense, it could've gotten ugly.

That might explain something that Helen let slip on the live feeds. She was talking to Elissa and said, "This show doesn't want us to put up Howard." The feeds immediately cut away, but the line still got out.

First of all, can this forever end the debate over whether production is trying to manipulate the HGs into doing what they want them to do? I mean, you don't get a more overt admission of producer manipulation than that.

Secondly, if I had to guess, I'd say the show didn't want Howard to be the nominee because he's black. Given how controversial Aaryn's comments have been, nominating Howard against her would be begging for a very intense battle and it's probably the kind of thing producers want to avoid.

It might also be that, since the plan is to evict the MVP nominee instead of Aaryn if Jeremy wins PoV, I'm assuming the producers really, REALLY don't want either of the two black contestants to get evicted before Aaryn. That would just be a P.R. nightmare.

It doesn't help that, in the 14-season history of the show, no African-American has ever won and the only one to even make it to the finale was Danielle Reyes way back in season 3. In fact, other than season 4's Jun Song, all of the winners have been white. Right now, I bet the producers are hoping and praying for Candice or Howard to win this season, because that would do a lot for the show's image.


What do you think of all of this chaos? Will Elissa's decision cause ripples in the alliance, or will they all just forgive and forget? Is Spencer as the MVP nominee better than Howard? Does the show not want Howard nominated because he's black? Are you happy that Big Brother 15 finally has a strong villain, and it's Amanda? I know I am, because she's a lot more sinister, when it comes to gameplay, than Aaryn.
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Post  Banjo 2013-07-13, 12:18

Aha ! Now we know that Jeremy won't be playing in the POV comp., setting him up for a possible backdoor eviction. Whether this comes about of course depends on who wins POV. scratch 




Playing in today’s comp will be Aaryn & Kaitlin as HoH’s noms, Helen as HoH, and Spencer as MVP nom. Also playing will be GM & Candice who were either picked or drawn from the box. Judd is hosting and he’s very excited.

Kaitlin scared & crying

Helen has repeatedly confirmed Jeremy is their real target and want to backdoor him. Now that he can’t play they’ve got a real shot at this. The only possible issue would be if Kaitlin wins the Veto as she has said she wouldn’t use it and put Jeremy at risk of going up (which he would). Wait, that won’t be an issue. Kaitlin was told the plan was to BD Jeremy and if she didn’t use it they’d send her home. She’s crying & telling GM to keep it for herself to protect Jeremy.



The Veto competition is coming up soon and we’ll share the results as soon as we have them. Watch along on the Live Feeds with us to see the house react.
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